*yawns sleepily*

[annwfyn]

I'm half asleep this morning, pottering about before going into town to get some court shoes for my new job. Apparently it's rather seriously corporate and so I must somehow put together a business suit. This strikes me as mildly silly, but for £10 an hour, there's a lot I'll do.

I'm also pondering role playing games, from Zeitgeist Sabbat in which I am realising that I really do have some rather John McEnroe stylee role playing tendancies (jez tells me that the whereabouts of a tennis ball will, however, have no bearing on whether or not I manage to actually accomplish the goals he set me with the NPC I've been told to run. I still yelled 'it was on the line' a couple of times more before going to bed) to Play-Yourself where I am feeling rather bemused as to why everything has gone KABOOM again.

*yawns*

For some reason I am really rather dazed today.

Oh, I've also been bouncing e mails with various people re: Zeitgeist Garou which seems to be getting a fairly good response. This makes me happy. I am remembering how much fun setting up a game from scratch can be, and am in a hopeful place. It also looks like ksirafai may be playing as well, thus proving that we live in an Age of Miracles.

And now, onward! An exciting world of dull black high heeled shoes awaits.

Comments

[rweishaar.livejournal.com]

Play Yourself. *twitch* *twitch* I have a rant, not that deep beneath the surface developing about that. Luckily, its all IC rant.

[annwfyn.livejournal.com]

I know. I have heard a bit of the rant. I have come to the conclusion that I don't entirely understand it. *ponders*

[rweishaar.livejournal.com]

It's mainly a few simple points. Without Rant, they are...

1) Yet again, I am out of a place where I was comfortably set up. See the 'You guys lost me my job' rant of previous.

2) The whole almost getting me killed thing. Thats really bad.

3) The Michael Corleone 'Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.' rant.

4) The fact that everyone feels the need to play with wazzy powers they dont understand ASAP. The fact that they saved you guys ONCE does not excuse it from the many times its caused us tragedy.

5) The fact that there is no progression in wazzy power trying out. Its not 'Hey, I am a salubri. Let me see if I can life-sense.'. Its 'Hey, I am a salubri and Sally just removed ryan from her memories. Let me pull out her soul. I mean, I have never done it before, but nothing can go wrong with that, right?'

6) The fact that no one learns from their mistake.

7) The fact that there is no accountability for mistakes. People just go 'Thats ok *insert person who screwed up here*. I mean, you may have fucked the group over, but its fine. It happens. We have all screwed up in the past. I want accountability. I want their noses rubbed in it. What will that solve, you ask? If a kid keeps fucking up and you dont punish them, then they will continue with their behavior. And yes, we are all acting like children.

8) The fact that whenever I get fucked over and rant, everyone basically tells me to shut up and stop my whinging.

9) That whole 'Everyone has fucked up, *such and such* is due' or 'Everyone has fucked up. You have fucked up too, so stop your bitching' is getting old.

10) If you go back to previous rants months ago IC and OOC about the play yourself game, you will see that some of the points are the same. That means we arent learning from our mistakes.

[annwfyn.livejournal.com]

From my perspective, and the reason why I'm mildly bemused, is that I think you're overeacting. I think you are focussing on the bad and the big and forgetting the amour of Good Stuff (tm) that we have done for you, while also forgetting the Bad Stuff (tm) that VampireRyan has done.

Yes, you've gotten shit from us. I've gotten shit from being part of the that group - I'd really be way happier either living as a princess in Fading Suns world, or pottering around with horses in 7th Sea world. I'm fairly sure that MattMatt and Ginnie would love to be in Marvel world, where they knew the rules. It's entirely possible that Elle's been yanked off some world she wanted to be in too.

Equally, we've periodically gone out of our way to help you - all of us. And finally I do believe that the big rants don't actually solve anything.

Ach. That isn't meant to be a major rant, coz I'm not in a ranty head space IC or OOC - just a slightly bemused and rather tired headspace and me vaguely trying to explain my lack of understanding.

[rweishaar.livejournal.com]

I think however, that the whole 'Hey, we have all fucked up in the past' reasoning is thin. There are those in the group who are screwing up in the same way, without ever learning. THATS my big problem. The whole 'leaving worlds we really could live on' isnt such a big deal now. If Ginnie wants to stay on a marvel world, cool. If you want to live on fading suns world, great. Its when a world that we have set ourselves up on becomes completely invalidated and we can never return is when I get twitchy. It it had been an accidental world hop that made us leave that world, I wouldnt be mad. We could just return me.

Or rather, let me ask you this... How many times have I made a world invalid and never able to return to? Perhaps MAYBE the fading suns world. Perhaps. Once. Fair enough. I have had to deal with it twice through no real fault of my own. Let me know how many more times I have to endure world ending screw ups before I am 'allowed' to be angry.

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

I'm playing to support my friends-as-STs, not because I'm relinquishing my principles. *noble*

...That, and the idea of three people sitting down and doing all the work for me strikes me as entertaining and a bit wasteful of me _not_ to look at what y'all have done... :P Besides, Fen's a fun bit of fluff.

Any character sheet I can look at and say 'Dodge? What are you talking about? Dodging means I can't get to the fight as fast - besides, I'm indestructible...' has to be entertaining, if ony briefly. :P

[aardnebby.livejournal.com]

You are letting her play one of _those_?

Or is it a true age of wonder and Ginnie is playing something that doesnt get the basic gift "Groom"?

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

Jez said 'Nasi were antagonistic to the Groo venue. I looked slightly blank and said '...well, yes... and?' and he looked almost thoughtful for a second, before raising an eyebrow patronisingly and explaining that no means no for everyone, even if I promised to eat all their babies and be plotty and give them things to do.

I thought this was unreasonable.

...Besides, I rarely play Tenere by choice; Kumoti and Hatar are more entertaining. Mm, Viskr... :)

[aardnebby.livejournal.com]

Aww, how mean! I think he is just picking on you. And my bad, I guess my 'nasi geekdom is insufficient... I thought it was a breed gift :P

Maybe they will let you NPC them? Or plan out their downtime actions involving the eating of babies or something?

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

To be fair, I think it may have been general Gift in 2nd ed. :)

[aardnebby.livejournal.com]

Ahh, cool. Not totally failed geek then, but I must admit your 'nasi-fu is superior.

[castorlion.livejournal.com]

Three?

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

I walk into house and get informed that you, Sal and Jez have been plotting me character types. Sounds like three to me - though you have done most work. :P

[annwfyn.livejournal.com]

There were more than three.

I think we had:

Influence Kinfolk
Numina Kinfolk
Combat Death On Legs
Glasswalker Philodox.

I think that was four.

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but mostly I ignored the GW Philo as someone who a) should know about Groo and b) would be quite dull. When everyone else is arguing passionately and you're able to stand there, look bored and Resist Pain, it gets a tad monotonous. ;P

[lanfykins.livejournal.com]

Got 10XP from that character you don't want? ;)

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

Gen up one of the two aforementioned Kinfolk, lose 10xp off it down the sofa, and you can keep it if I decide to play that one. :P

[lanfykins.livejournal.com]

Two 40XP Kinfolk coming right up :)

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

...And, on that, if there's anything else in the not-restricted-or-very-restricted-or-banned list you think I'd play interestingly/well/entertainingly, throw them together, too. Likewise anyone else who feels like nabbing XP; whichever sheet/background I choose to play with will grant the donor of said sheet/background 10xp - and, ifit's really good and they've lost more xp on it than that, 10xp to other people of their choice. :)

[melsner.livejournal.com]

I think it's safe to say that you're going to blow more money on an outfit for the temp job than you'll make from the temp job.

[commlal.livejournal.com]

I have pimped off so much Exp from my Garou Kinfolk, its getting silly now. How much exp do you get to start.

IT WAS ON THE LINE! :D

[chrisvenus]

Was going to talk to you if I saw you online. Since I haven't what is a good e-mail address for you?

[ksirafai.livejournal.com]

Sally = (lj name) @hotmail.com :)

[annwfyn.livejournal.com]

annwfyn@hotmail.com. Sorry, I've not been on msn due to having people about and popping on and off a fair bit. I should be able to check e mail today as long as you get through to me before midday, after which I am going into work for a handover.

Alternatively, feel free to chat via text message if you like.

[baldurs-voice.livejournal.com]

Yay Garou Yay Sally is great
have baaic of character worked out and think Sally even likes it email me if you wish to know more on or give xp

oh and any one wish to have links with a Lupus Glass Walker

Zeitgeist Garou

[suchid.livejournal.com]

How would one get involved? :)

Re: Zeitgeist Garou

[annwfyn.livejournal.com]

One would gen up a character and then show up.

I will warn in advance that this game is very specifically not an internet based game - there is some e mail involvement, but it is partly aimed at getting away from the cam situation where if one didn't have internet access then one couldn't really participate.

If you can show up it's very easy tho!

Re: Zeitgeist Garou

[suchid.livejournal.com]

I'm intending to go to London more often. There's people I like there and an active gaming presence where I'm not forced to do everything for people. ;)

[twicedead.livejournal.com]

What happened to me in "play yourself"?