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Just to let everyone know...

There is going to be an outing to Canary Wharf this evening to see Howl's Moving Castle.

At the moment, [livejournal.com profile] ksirafai, [livejournal.com profile] castorlion, [livejournal.com profile] pierot and myself are attending, but all are welcome. We'll be meeting in the Surrey Quays area at about 6.30 pm and then heading across. There may well be ice cream involved in this entire process as some point as well, and maybe even dinner.

If anyone wants to show, feel free to come along!

In other news, I went to the gym last night with [livejournal.com profile] ksirafai. It was rather scary. An energetic woman in lycra shouted at me for 45 minutes. I came home - for some reason most of me is fine this morning except my arms which are really aching. It's very peculiar.

Oh, going to the gym also made me ponder something which has been running around in my head for a week or so.

What does 'fat' actually mean? Or, more precisely, what does 'the right weight' mean to you folks? You see, in my head I am dramatically too big, and I'm trying to work out why it bothers me so much. I've got a boyfriend who says I look fine and finds me attractive. I like my boyfriend. I don't really feel the need to attract anyone else right now. My clothes fit, and have done since my operation, and while I'm back up to a size 14 (with size 12 being a bit tight) that's not enormous in my mind. I'm not causing myself any health problems (although I could do with getting fitter - that's my good and positive reason to start going to the gym), and yet I continue to be bothered by my weight.

For me, rather pathetically, it does seem to come down to a level of media pressure, which is mildly ridiculous. But anyway, it got me pondering. What makes up our mental conception of what the 'right' weight for us is.

And lo! A poll appeared!

[Poll #578242]

Answer, don't answer, debate and discuss. I'm curious, mostly because it's something I don't quite get in myself. Oh, and I have another thing which I am aware is pure neurosis. I think I'm big at the moment because my stomach looks to be larger in proportion to my stomach than it ever has done before. The fact that my breasts are currently smaller than they have been at any time since I was twelve years old doesn't seem to be being taken in by my subconscious. It's very very silly!

Date: 2005-09-27 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castorlion.livejournal.com
What type of cinema is at Canada Water?

Date: 2005-09-27 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
Canary Wharf has a UGC I recall. I remember going there on the day it opened and getting an unlimited month of movies there. They had no idea what they were doing... the fools.

Date: 2005-09-27 10:15 am (UTC)
ext_20269: (red hair)
From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
I think it has a UGC - I found the cinema times by googling for "London Howl's Moving Castle cinema times".

Date: 2005-09-27 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rweishaar.livejournal.com
So... This is a movie Ginnie wants to see, right? Can I show up and talk/ridicule/make silly noises during the movie then?

Can I? Please!?

In regards to the weight issue. For me, I judge based on how I was when I played sports. When I was in the military. *mutter* As soon as Christa leaves tomorrow, I am going to get a membership to that gym. I need to lose a stone, perhaps a stone and a half of fat (if I gain it back in muscle, thats fine)

Christa and I wont be joining you guys. We will probably take the time tonight while you guys are gone to have LOUD sex. So... be warned if you come home, we might still be at it.

Date: 2005-09-27 10:15 am (UTC)
ext_20269: (red hair)
From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
I do sometimes look at pics of me when I was spending four-eight hours per week on horseback and cry. It's a very sad story.

Date: 2005-09-27 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildekitten.livejournal.com
I don't particulary care about my weight.
Quite possibly because I don't seem to gain any, no matter what I do.
I do try to eat healthy, but that's more because healthy food is just better and I like veg, fruit and yohurt (I vastly prefer it over choc and stuff) altho I do eat the occasional cookie etc :)

Going to the gym is something I will most likely never do, it just requiers far far too much efford. I like to believe that buying a bike and going everywhere by bike (or at least cycling to the train station, folding the bike and take it on the train and continue to cycle to where I have to be again after the train) is going to be more then enough exercise haha :)
If only I wasn't quite so lazy in going to Antwerp to actually buy the bike :)

I'm afraid I'm a hopeless case, I try to kid myself that making clothes counts as exercise, much to the amusement of many of my friends.
Then again, I also like to think that seeing I have very little excess body fat and fit in a size 8-10 top and 10-12 skirt, I don't really need exercise etc.

Date: 2005-09-27 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildrogue.livejournal.com
You realise that for those comments those of us who do not have uber-metabolisms may have to kill you horribly?
Just a warning.

Date: 2005-09-27 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildekitten.livejournal.com
I feel rather safe seeing the lot of you
a. are far too lazy to come to Belgium,
b. Don't know where exactly I live :)

Date: 2005-09-27 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardnebby.livejournal.com
*looks vaguely paranoid*

You know, if I dont eat junk food I lose weight right?

Date: 2005-09-27 01:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] malakite.livejournal.com
I don't particulary care about my weight.
Quite possibly because I don't seem to gain any, no matter what I do.


Ditto- I've tried putting on weight, but the only way that seems likely to happen is if I become a gymaholic- and that's not enough of a reason to go to the gym.

Date: 2005-09-27 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilitufire.livejournal.com
I'm moving to using measurements and body fat percentage more as an indicator than actual weight per se. A bit of research on ideal percentages indicates my ideal weight if toned and fit is a good 2 stone heavier than I thought it was, which is comforting.

For instance, I've been exercising heavily over the last month, and not lost any weight, but I've lost 2% body fat and a dress size.

I'd love to be small enough to fit into Serious Designer Gear TM, rather than just going to the shops and stroking it. I'm getting there. Slowly :)

Date: 2005-09-27 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildrogue.livejournal.com
As a sort of additional point - weight is a very bad indicator. I've been roughly 12 stone since I was about 15 when I finished growing. This includes the time I was on a serious exercise routine and walking 35 miles on Dartmoor every other weekend.
Body shape changes much more easily. Bizarely I use my cheekbones as a fairly reliable indicator but that's probably just me.

Date: 2005-09-27 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imagesandwords.livejournal.com
you looked great at the wedding!

Umm.. no I don't actaully appear to have anything useful to say. sorry.

Date: 2005-09-27 06:29 pm (UTC)
ext_20269: (red hair)
From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
I think that's entirely useful!

Date: 2005-09-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imagesandwords.livejournal.com
Glad to hear it.

*doesn't point out your old debts to me for being late etc* :p

Date: 2005-09-27 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverclear.livejournal.com
yeah, what he said. you looked lovely at the wedding, and I actually thought you looked slimmer overall than the last time I saw you but didn't like to start discussing weight! also, I can't remember the last time I saw you, so it seemed sort of irrelevant. yeah, so, thomas put it better.

Date: 2005-09-27 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanfykins.livejournal.com
Heh.

I'm fat. So on the one hand, the 'right' weight for me is about half what I currently am.

On the other hand, I'm always going to be fat. I've tried every diet that's out there - only one has worked, and I've now hit a plateau on that. So being neurotic about something that's not going to change seems... counterproductive.

Anyway, [livejournal.com profile] uksilverfang twitches every time I talk about losing weight :)

Date: 2005-09-27 06:28 pm (UTC)
ext_20269: (red shawl)
From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
*nods*

I think that's a fairly sensible attitude to take. I've made a vow that if I stick to my half hour at the gym every day and don't eat too stupidly, I shall refuse to let myself whine about my weight. If I plateau larger than I'd like, then that's life or god or something. Life is too short to make onself miserable for no good reason, and I'm sure that weight should be about whether you can find clothes, whether the people/person you want to fancy you does, and whether you're basically healthy. Beyond that I do think it's all a lot of media based illusion.

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